Thanks for that.
One question: you said that we will use auctions with 0 bid in order to maintain the right faction/player order.
But couldn't we get the same result simply deselecting the "random player order" option when creating new tournament games?
In this way, players will play in the order they join the game, so all they need to do is (A) wait for their turn to enter the game and (B) select the correct faction
@gaianator hi. Add me please. Also note that Arialllito listed the player names in his post.
@Gaianator I can't suggest anything, it's your decision, not mine.
@ effa - thank you for interested. And I'm sorry, I don't understand you. We have crew of 16 players and close registration yesterday, before your post. Am I wrong?
@ariallito I think the tournament is due to start 16 September 2021; yes registration is closed.
@molfo said in The II Eastern Hemisphere Gaia Tournament:
But couldn't we get the same result simply deselecting the "random player order" option when creating new tournament games?
Sure - it would be better! But believe me - I tried a few times. This option doesn't work. Unfortunately.
I would like to propose a small elo balancing swaps - group D has two sub 200 players and group B only 200+
If there are major objections I would like to make the changes.
1. EuroAfrAsia-CUP-Group-A
El Temblo effaraitsch Snitz bardopondo
2. EuroAfrAsia-CUP-Group-B
sharath Rescod Markus lucasrrr
3. EuroAfrAsia-CUP-Group-C
vizkris DukeR Mecenas Babbuc49
4. EuroAfrAsia-CUP-Group-D
Molfo carioca Gaianator ariallito
Around the weekend, I will send each of you a link to the games.
The first game: no auction. You choose any faction and play. The second (and next) games: auction as a tool for copying the correct factions order - but I will remind about it.
@Gaianator many thanks for the list, and your points table!
::
What is the prize in the tournament apart from prestige? - unknown player asked.
The award is a diploma, a bouquet of flowers, a chocolate box and a rocket trip to anyany planet in the solar system!* Are you ready for this?
*But I warn you guys that the organizer reserves the right to withdraw from the award due to coronavirus restrictions! #stayhome #washyourhands #keepdistance
IMPORTANT informations & request:
player El Temblo was created a discord-channel just for our Tournament, you guys all welcome: https://discord.com/channels/693041156698669057/887406128290492426
Request: Please vote & decide:
Manual poll only for players enrolled in the EuroAfrAsia Cup (10 A's required for motion to pass):
A: Play all four of your round games simultaneously
B: Play round games one after the other
C: I don't have a particular preference
It's not mine but also yours Tournament. We play together & decide together. If 10 people choose options A or C, we play: 4 games at the same time.
If you don't understand the difference: ask here or check discussion from Discord channel.
Why am I asking you this?
Some players have an idea about changing the system of games. Please check dissciusion https://discord.com/channels/693041156698669057/702081375309660170 and vote here (forum) or there (Discord), we will summary all voices.
EDIT: But... maybe better way is these proposals:
[1] Each single group can play as they wish if all 4 players agree
and:
[2] In the event of great differences in agreement, Gaianator will reorganize all the groups so that 'simultaneous players' can be put together into 1,2 or 3 groups. And the rest players, preferring old system 'one after another' also put together, into 1,2 or 3 groups. Still we have to keep Torunament's rule: each group is 4 players.
or
[3] @Snitz: all groups should play the same way.
Till now (Discord + forum) :
A (simultaneously) :
C (indifferent, but 'simultaneously' is OK) :
B (one after another):
:: ps. In my opinion: {1} and {2} is OK: players should try new method. But I definitely want to be in a group that plays in old way: one game after another. If there is no such group - no problem, I will play like everyone else.
Herewith the Google Sheet Scoring Table for our Tournament:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oGZbKS3j3W4-zEEKHsUQYvKGw5u22QyYEPpuofQWW1I/edit?usp=sharing
Option B. Why not option A? - playing 4 games in the same setup simultaniously would be just monotonous. It would be harder to follow your pre planned strategy for your game this way, cause the games would mess up. I've got this tested in late Polish Leauge.
Following the same winning patern in the next round games is not the issue in my opinion, because optimal moves highly depent on other players actions, which would differ highly as the games progress. The optimal initial mine placement and boosters taken from game to game probably would be the same - but these decicions are rather obvious.
It like chess - the possibilities count in bilions. No worry in coping winning moves.
I'm for option B, I think however all groups should play the same way, so no problem for option A shoud it be selected from the most of us
@bardopondo Probably the only two of us are firmly in favor of Option B. I'll see what's on Discord, and let you know.
@ariallito
After some thought on the matter, I have changed my response from C to B.
I think we only need Molfo feedback, then everyone gave some form of feedback on either platform.
Watch this Space <<
Well I think credit goes to the person who created the spreadsheet for Season one and Arial who provided the nice posters!
@ariallito can i change the answer to B? I think we can really get confused when playing parallel
:: Victory points table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oGZbKS3j3W4-zEEKHsUQYvKGw5u22QyYEPpuofQWW1I
:: Links to all [completed] games and the correct factions order:
Group A seed: EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-A
https://www.boardgamers.space/game/EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-A
:: Group B seed: EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-B
https://www.boardgamers.space/game/EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-B
:: Group C seed: EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-C
https://www.boardgamers.space/game/EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-C
:: Group D seed: EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-D
https://www.boardgamers.space/game/EurAfrAsia-CUP-Group-D
Sorry, I forgot about the last rule of the Tournament:
Take it easy, it's just a game, nothing else! :)
:: ps. Am I right? Of course, yes!
But ok, hmmm, let's see...
Please notice: it will be our together defeat if someone completely loses game/tournament just because of an absurd missclick.
In such a situation - please report the bug in the game chat IMMEDIATELY. The next player is supposed to wait, shouldn't make their own move. We will try to find help.
Of course, this does not apply to a player's wrong decision. The situation must be transparent, without any doubts!
I propose opening the semi-finals around Friday 19/11 (if anyone has other suggestions, please write).
I will get back with exact information.
Our Discord channel: https://discord.com/channels/693041156698669057/887406128290492426
Gaianator's point-table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oGZbKS3j3W4-zEEKHsUQYvKGw5u22QyYEPpuofQWW1I
Good luck all!
Group E
Group F
These 16 group games really deserve a summary. But by not directly participating in 12 of them - I can only risk unfair judgment.
In my group D, the weakest Lantid result and the worst Ambas result were also one of the hardest fights in this group! So it makes no sense to write that X vp is a low result. In the same way - for example: I know nothing about the actual value of the Lantids scores in group B, sometimes one decision (your or not) can change everything...
If anyone wants to add something or sum up these difficult matches - please.
I can and would like only to write: thank you ALL 16 players for your games!
@ariallito I' ve got some observations and interesting for me afterthoughts, but frankly, I think that revealing them would be somenthing that might interfere with the rivalization.
This setup of 4 identical games leads to particular attitude, faction strenght is something that is less significant here, hence they are all played at some point.
I propose to define the exact schemeing key of picking factions for all 4 games. E.g. : Ist match ABCD 2nd BDAC 3 rd CADB 4th DCBA Or something like this....
@bardopondo
Thank you for your opinion. We will do as you suggested. And we don't need 'auction' anymore, because BGS has fixed 'player order' option :)
Explanation the random order of your group F is:
First game:
So we're going to shift the order 1 to the right:
Second game
Third game:
etc.
vizkris is 'Host of the table'. He will manage the correct order.
Factions order:
Players order:
1st game:
2nd game:
etc.
Link: https://www.boardgamers.space/game/EurAfrAsia-CUP-Final
